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I am ready to pull that lope
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I have neither the background, skill, nor temperament to handle the business side. That said, I understand the need for the work I do to meet business needs. The last four options in the survey all have a contemptuous tone toward business which doesn't match my thinking.
I am very fortunate to have a boss who handles business well, and moreover can explain it so that I and the other members of my team understand why a request is made. Importantly, he doesn't try to dictate how we implement it. Very often the combination lets us meet the request in a holistic manner that's better for everyone.
Software Zen: delete this;
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If I knew how much $$$ they were saving, I'd know how to calculate an ROI. Then I'd know how much they'd be willing to pay.
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There are no software problems, more likely business problem with possible software solution
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I know so little of the jargon to begin with, so learning enough to understand what the business folk are blathering on about would be good.
If that toe-dipping makes me want to know more, I'd go after it, learning everything I could and implementing it irl.
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Most of my career has been in IT consulting, and while the software wasn't created for commercial sales, there is still a strong element of sales as we have to convince the customer we can do the job. As a result I read a lot of RFP's and help write and/or review responses for accuracy.
Going on sales calls was sometimes fun -- depending on the salesperson. Some are very astute and while not technical, understand the technology well enough to sell it. Others, the really scary ones, are completely clueless and will promise the sun, moon, and stars without having any idea what they are promising nor the fact that it's not possible to do what they sell.
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Sales is an "Art of the possible". I would rather tackle the "impossible" - getting software to run on minimal hardware, in minimum time, etc.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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All of my work has been for financial services which were strictly in house
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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A view point given to me, is all people you making something for are your customer, so treat them as such.
Just because user is in house, doesnt mean there should be any short cutting what you aim to delivery for them.
and asking WHY they need this new button on the page can, what is the BUSINESS reason for it, not the technical reason, which might lead to well they want the button there, but not realise they doing 3 steps to many, and retraining them would be better use then development work.
Business Problems instead of Software Problems
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You're assuming a UI is present, a lot of my code ran as a service - contracted to one of the big boys in the UK for 25yrs no complaints ever.
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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maze3 wrote: ...all people you making something for are your customer, so treat them as such. I agree. All of my 25 years of professional coding has been strictly for in-house use, and I always considered the folks on the business side to be my customers.
But I understood the poll question to mean the business behind software development itself, for example sales of software, or purchasing software, budgeting the development, etc. I have no interest in that at all.
There are no solutions, only trade-offs. - Thomas Sowell
A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do. - Bill Watterson (Calvin & Hobbes)
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I know that in an imaging company, the same image processing filter (aka same dll) gets sold to different customers at different prices. The logic behind this business decision is known to only one person, the owner of the company; this is something beyond my sense of logic. Therefore crazy at times.
modified 13-Feb-23 5:30am.
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I'd love to be more knowledgeable about the business side, despite me being quite terrible with people and especially masses. I am interested, just not trained at all in that.
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